[Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names

From: botanist at malesiana.com (Peter Boyce) on 2008.07.01 at 02:48:27(18025) Hi Marek, Your email prompted me to take a look on the web. I am amazed that I was unable to find an image of R. pertusa that was correctly named. I have slides (transparencies) I took in Bangladesh of this and R. glauca (the probable closest allie). I will try to get them scanned and posted. Have to say I was rather depressed by the quality of naming on the web in general; even really common species posted with completely wrong or, worse, fictitious, names... Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Marek Argent To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names Thanks Pete, I asked about this because many websites present photos of Monstera deliciosa 'Borsigiana' as "Monstera pertusa" or even "Philodendron pertusum". Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Boyce To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names Hi Marek, Tom, etc. Sorry I did pick up on the Monstera thread a bit earlier. Tom is correct, M. pertusa is a Rhaphidophora (R. pertusa). Rhaphidophora pertusa (Roxb.) Schott, Prodr. Syst. Aroid.: 382. 1860; Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 6: 546. 1893. - Pothos pertusus Roxb., Fl. Ind. 1: 455. 1820. - Monstera pertusa (Roxb.) Schott, Wiener Z. Kunst 4: 1028. 1830. - Scindapsus pertusus (Roxb.) Schott in H.W.Schott & S.L.Endlicher, Melet. Bot.: 21. 1832. - Rhaphidophora lacera Hassk., Flora 25(2 Beibl.): 11. 1842, nom. illeg. Very large, very robust, pachycaul, heterophyllous liane to 15 m or more. Stem robustly terete, 3-5 cm diam., Leaves dense along most of the stem except the oldest portion. Petiole shallowly canaliculate, 15-30 cm, pulvini indistinct; petiolar sheath extending 2/3 along the petiole, margins soon marcescent; lamina (juvenile) rotund, entire, apex abrupt acute, 13 ? 11 cm; (adult) oblong-ovate, ovate in outline, 20-50 ? 15-25 cm, irregularly and asymmetrically pinnately cut with the incisions c. ? way to the mid-rib and sometimes occurring as ovate, apex acute, base subcordate, pinnae 2-5 per side. Inflorescence solitary on tips of free lateral shoots. Peduncle cylindric, very robust,15-18 ? 1.5-2 cm. Spathe oblong-ovate, cymbiform, ca. 18 ? 8 cm, spreading at anthesis, thence falling, yellowish to somewhat pinkish tinged; spadix cylindric, ca. 10-12 ? 2-3 cm, base oblique, sessile, yellow. Fruit hexagonal-obconical, 18 ? 5 mm, green-white stylar region sloughing to reveal white or yellow p ulp cavity. Distribution. - Sri Lanka, S. India through N.E. Himalaya to Bangladesh, Burma and N. Thailand Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Croat To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:52 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names Marek: Monstera friedrichsthalii is a synonym of A. adansonii but M. pertusa is not even a Monstera as I recall but rather a Rhapidophora (Pete is this not correct?). M. karwinskyi is a synonym of M. acuminate, not the other way around. M. obliqua has lots of synonyms. Madison lists 7 including M. expilata Schott but I intend to resurrect the latter. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:13 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names Hello, Can anyone authoritatively tell if: M. friedrichsthalii = M. adansonii = M. pertusa M. acuminata = M. karwinskyi M. obliqua has no synonyms Best Marek _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ NOD32 Informacje 3225 (20080629) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ NOD32 Informacje 3225 (20080629) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080701/ebe1cb00/attachment-0001.htm

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