Re: [Aroid-l] Amo atroviridis?

From: Ken Mosher <ken at spatulacity.com> on 2009.09.12 at 21:50:53(20015) Marek, That tuber was certainly very atroviridis-like. -Ken +More Marek Argent wrote: > I sent to you all photos in high resolution but the message returned > to me because it exceeded the limit of your mailbox. > If you want any of them larger, write to me. > >> Hi Wilbert, >> >> Yes, this is the same plant. I bought one tuber in 2006 (it was pink >> because >> it was treated with a fungicide by the seller), in 2007 it grew in my >> garden, it bloomed but it didn't put any leaf. The inflorescence was >> 28 cm >> tall with the peduncle, while the peduncle was about 12 cm. The >> spathe at >> the beginning was pinkish, then it turned white. >> >> In 2008 it also grew in the garden in full Sun, with a typical Polish >> summer >> (very hot and dry - it had to be watered everyday, but it still was not >> enough), the leaf was divided into about 20 leaflets on a very dark and >> short petiole. >> >> After the season the tuber split, the lower part fell off, first I >> thought >> it was dead but it had small white buds, so I left it. >> >> In 2009 it stayed at home, both tubers produced leaves (one leaf from >> one >> tuber). The leaf grown from the large tuber is 51 cm tall, 29 cm wide >> and >> the petiole is 38 cm. It is divided into 10 lobes, the upper surface >> is dark >> green and velvety, the lower is brown with greyish tint. There are many >> veins and every second one is thicker. The petiole is smooth, brown >> with a >> few white spots. >> >> All my tuberous plants grown at home were always larger than in the >> garden. >> For example Am. konjac from similar size tubers grew 2x larger at home. >> >> Maybe you know why do my Amorphophalli and other tropical tuberous >> aroids >> wake up so late (most of them in June or August), only Taccarum >> weddellianum >> and Am albus wake up earlier (May, July), and Am. haematospadix is still >> dormant, the same with Typhonium kunmingense, I checked the tubers a few >> days ago, they are alive, but not hurrying to grow. During dormancy I >> store >> the tubers in the bathroom (the warmest and the most humid place at >> home). >> They are in pots with soil and sometimes I pour a little water in >> summer, >> but it doesn't help, they still are asleep. Storing tubers there I >> already >> lost 2 rare plants: Pycnospatha arietina and an unidentified >> Anchomanes sp. >> >> I append all photos I found of this atroviridis, even the >> unsuccessful ones. >> Every photo with a date. >> If you need more details please tell me till the plant has leaves. >> >> Marek >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" >> >> To: "'Discussion of aroids'" >> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Two amorphophalluses ... amorphophalli ... >> whatever >> >> >> O.k., the new pics of the leaf do indeed resemble atroviridis but the >> flower >> doesn't match. Are you QUITE sure the leaf and the flower are of the >> same >> plant??? Send me the picture of the flowwer agaian privately >> (hetter@xs4all.nl) and I'll check again. >> >> Cheers, >> Wilbert >> >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com >>> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Marek Argent >>> Verzonden: woensdag 9 september 2009 0:53 >>> Aan: Discussion of aroids >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Two amorphophalluses ... >>> amorphophalli ... whatever >>> >>> Wilbert, >>> >>> The petiole is smooth with white pattern and the leaf blade >>> is velvety. >>> This year it looks quite different than a year ago. >>> >>> I remember I was asking you last year (I asked what attacked >>> the leaf) and you identified it as atroviridis. >>> >>> Last year it grew in the garden and the leaf was different >>> (it was divided into ~20 lobes), this year it stayed at home >>> on southern window, the leaf is larger, but has only 10 lobes >>> and it's upper surface is velvety, the petiole is long and >>> the pattern appeared (see the attached photos). >>> The older photos you'll find in this page (The first photo >>> doesn't show my >>> plant): >>> http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/amorphophallus/atrovir.htm >>> >>> Marek >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" >>> To: "Discussion of aroids" >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:41 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Two amorphophalluses ... amorphophalli >>> ... whatever >>> >>> >>> Hi too, >>> >>> Well Marek, yes, the plants look similar, but yours is not >>> atroviridis, or >>> I am suffering from "Amorphophalli Memorii-Degeneratio". I >>> would check if >>> your plant has a velvety hairy leaf-stalk. My guess is it >>> will be smooth. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Wilbert >>> >>> >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > My atroviridis looks so (new photos attached) and here >>> > http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/amorphophallus/atrovir.htm >>> > I think it's the same species. >>> > >>> > Marek >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Steve Marak" >>> > To: "Discussion of aroids" >>> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:43 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Two amorphophalluses ... >>> amorphophalli ... whatever >>> > >>> > >>> >> Wilbert, >>> >> >>> >> No problem - I haven't had time to look at the tags yet anyway. I'd >>> >> hoped >>> >> to get to that, and a bunch of other things that need doing in the >>> >> greenhouse, over the Labor Day holiday here in the US, but >>> as usual I'm >>> >> way behind. >>> >> >>> >> Attached is a picture of the leaf. Both the infloresence >>> and the leaf >>> >> are >>> >> more open now, and I'll try to take a couple more pictures today. >>> >> >>> >> Steve >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Oops, I noticed I wrote that the one in the picture >>> without the leaf is >>> >>> Am. >>> >>> atroviridis but that was a slip of the braincell. It >>> looks more like >>> >>> operculatus or like (hard to be sure without leaf). >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry 'bout that, Steve. >>> >>> >>> >>> Wilbert >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> >>> > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com >>> >>> > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Steve Marak >>> >>> > Verzonden: donderdag 3 september 2009 8:45 >>> >>> > Aan: Aroid list >>> >>> > Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Two amorphophalluses ... amorphophalli >>> >>> > ... whatever >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Aroiders, >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I've barely been in the greenhouse this week, but I noticed a >>> >>> > stench in passing and investigation turned up these two. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > There are labels in the pots and I have no reason to doubt >>> >>> > them but would appreciate the opinions of the experts just as >>> >>> > confirmation - I have had aroid tubers move around >>> >>> > mysteriously now and then, and a lot happened in a short time >>> >>> > (with very little sleep) during the great ice storm. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Thanks, >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Steve >>> >>> > >>> >>> > -- Steve Marak > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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