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Re: AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden
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From: "Scott Lucas" htbg at ilhawaii.net> on 2000.04.27 at 23:40:17(4458)
Must be showing my age! (don't forward that to anyone either) :-)
----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L"
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden
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> Well, I think sex is o.k. (don't forward this to other people.....).
> However, hybridisation as a tool in unravelling evolutionary relationships
> is a passed station. The biological species concept in Mayr's sense is
long
> dead.
>
> Wilbert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Lucas
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Sent: donderdag 27 april 2000 3:04
> Subject: Re: AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden
>
>
> > But then, on the other hand, hybridization studies would lead to an
> > understanding of interspecific relationships and evolution within the
> genus.
> > I mean, don't you people believe in sex?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I agree with the below message!!!!!!!!!!
> > > Dewey
> > >
> > > >The first person to distribute hybridised Amorphophalluses will have
to
> > > >watch his/her back for the rest of his/her life..................or
> must
> > > >learn all twohundred REAL species by heart!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >Wilbert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Scott Hyndman
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > > >Sent: woensdag 26 april 2000 5:05
> > > >Subject: Re: AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Your idea is an interesting one, but keep in mind that without the
> very
> > > >> careful documentation of proposed Amorphophallus hybrids, the
> taxonomy
> > > >could
> > > >> become very confused, just as it is already in the many hybrids
that
> > exist
> > > >> of Anthurium, Caladium, and Spathiphyllum.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards, Scott
> > > >>
> > > >> --------------------
> > > >> Mr. Scott E. Hyndman
> > > >> Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> > > >> USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> > > >> E-mail:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > From: "Bonaventure W Magrys"
> > > >> > Reply-To: aroid-l@mobot.org
> > > >> > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:35:16 -0500 (CDT)
> > > >> > To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > > >> > Subject: Re: AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Dear Craig,
> > > >> > Anthurium, Spathiphyllum, Caladium, and Calla, are among aroid
> genera
> > > >which
> > > >> > have
> > > >> > horticulturally benefited greatly from a program of hybridization
> and
> > > >> > breeding.
> > > >> > Now that you have several species of Amorphophallus and relatives
> > > >blooming or
> > > >> > ready to, together, howbout saving pollen from one and putting it
> on
> > > >others
> > > >> > when
> > > >> > receptive, to produce hybrids?
> > > >> > The benefits, at least, may turn out to be hybrid vigor and
> decreased
> > > >> > maturation
> > > >> > time. Many unexpected surprises turn up also.
> > > >> > There would probably be a ready market for such seed or seedlings
> as
> > > >many of
> > > >> > us
> > > >> > would be eager to grow up some of these..........
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Bonaventure W. Magrys
> > > >> > Elizabeth, NJ zone 6
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The growing season has started along the bay in Miami. I?ve been
> out
> > of
> > > >town
> > > >> > for several weeks and during that time the amorphophallus
> collection
> > > >began
> > > >> > to break dormancy. I made a list of the species that are
blooming,
> > are
> > > >about
> > > >> > to bloom, and or just finished.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FG 941491 Amorphophallus gigas "inflorescence now 76" tall,
> > spadix
> > > >> > showing but not mature" (ID84)
> > > >> > SOURCE: Don Evans: when the Wilbert Hetterscheid & Dr James Symon
> > > >expedition
> > > >> > brought back seeds of the A, titanium, these seeds were included.
> > > >9/13/93
> > > >> > BLOOM PERIOD: 5/99; 6/99; 4/24/2000
> > > >> > HORTICULTURE: All reports given to me say it is hard to keep
alive.
> > > >> > * It will be at tonight's IAS meeting (4/24/2000)
> > > >> > .....................................................
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Amorphophallus haematospadix (syn.: A. siamensis) FG
961039 -
> > > >> > inflorescence now 13", spadix just beginning to show (ID2149)
> > > >> > SOURCE: Mike McLaughlin, Allen Howard, Jack Fisher: Malaysia:
State
> > of
> > > >> > Perlis: Gua Kelam Recreation Area: Mata Ayer Forest Preserve. 3
May
> > > >1996.
> > > >> > BLOOM PERIOD: 4/99; 4/2000
> > > >> > DESCRIPTION: striking slender inflorescence, slender leathery
> leaves
> > > >are
> > > >> > unmistakable. In 1999 the first inflorescence was produced. It
> lasted
> > > >longer
> > > >> > than most species, more than a week. Over all it is 30" tall,
> taller
> > > >than
> > > >> > any Mike saw in the rainforest. The stem is 18" the actual
> > inflorescence
> > > >> > 12". The spadix is 1.25" thick, 10" long smooth and colored a
deep
> > > >> > burgundy/purple. The spathe is white aging to lavender, darker
> > towards
> > > >the
> > > >> > base. The bloom stalk like the leaf has no mottling. It has a
> > fragrance
> > > >much
> > > >> > like rotting fruit, not of carrion as is common on many other
> > species.
> > > >> > .....................................................
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FG 961019 Amorphophallus sp. "inflorescence still wrapped in
> > > >sheath"
> > > >> > (ID2313)
> > > >> > SOURCE: Dr. L. G. Saw; Collected Malaysia: state of Perlis: Guar
> > Jentik:
> > > >> > Kaki Bukit. Malaysia Expedition 1996 (Jack Fisher, Allen Howard,
> > Mike
> > > >> > McLaughlin) 5/4/96.
> > > >> > BLOOM PERIOD: 4/21/98; 5/13/98; 4/24/2000;
> > > >> > DESCRIPTION: When it bloomed in 4/98, it looked very much like
> > (ID2314)
> > > >> > Looks similar to the A. prainii listed in Aroidiana Vol. 19, p.
> 112.
> > > >> > .....................................................
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FG 961022 Amorphophallus sp. ?11inch inflorescence still
> tightly
> > > >wrapped
> > > >> > in sheath? (ID2314)
> > > >> > SOURCE: Dr. L.G. Saw Malaysia: State of Perlis: Gua Kelam
> > Recreational
> > > >> > Area: Mata Ayer Forest Preserve. Malayasia Expedition 1006 (Jack
> > Fisher,
> > > >> > Allen Howard, Mike McLaughlin) 16. 5/3/96.
> > > >> > BLOOM PERIOD: 4/18/98; 4/24/2000
> > > >> > DESCRIPTION: (Looks similar to the A, prainii listed in Aroidiana
> > Vol.
> > > >19,
> > > >> > p. 112.) Looks much like (ID2313) 961019 but with out the
recurved
> > > >spathe
> > > >> > edge. The tuber is a very symmetrical pumpkin shape. The
> depression
> > at
> > > >the
> > > >> > top is very deep.
> > > >> > ??????????????.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FG 80198 Sauromatum guttatum "several bloomed while I was
> away
> > > >another
> > > >> > looks ready in 3-5 days" (ID1961)
> > > >> > COMMON NAME: Voodoo Lily, Monarch of the East
> > > >> > SOURCE: Dr. Jim French, from horticulture BLOOM PERIOD: 5/98;
> > 6/98;
> > > >> > 3/2000
> > > >> > DESCRIPTION: Inflorescence last only 1 or 2 days, smells like
> urine
> > > >> > ???????????????.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > (ID2741) Amorphophallus sp. ?in full bloom, inflorescence
> about
> > > >10-12?
> > > >> > SOURCE: Donated by Dewey Fisk: SLY 515 collected by Si-Lin Yang.
> > Catba
> > > >> > Islands, Vietnam, collected on Oct. 20, 1994
> > > >> > BLOOM PERIOD: 4/24/2000
> > > >> > DESCRIPTION: Inflorescence is a small A. peonifolius
> > > >> > ????????????????
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FG 961266 Amorphophallus sp. ?just about finished blooming.
> > > >Inflorescence
> > > >> > is 32? tall? (ID2312)
> > > >> > SOURCE: Dr. Si-Lin Yang wild collected in Thailand, Chaing Mai.
> > > >> > DESCRIPTION: Looks like A. yunnanensis, Aroidiana Vol. 19, 1996
pp.
> > > >127-8
> > > >> > ????????????????.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FG 97630 Amorphophallus variabilis ?inflorescence is 19?
> > tall,
> > > >> > spadix beginning to show? (ID2352)
> > > >> > SOURCE: Reggie Whitehead and Tom Moore collected in Java'
Cibadak,
> > 6/97
> > > >> > BLOOM PERIOD: 5/19/98; 4/24/2000
> > > >> > DESCRIPTION: not a large species
> > > >> > ......................................................
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FG 961201 Amorphophallus lambii Araceae ? several plants
have
> > > >bloomed
> > > >> > this spring, they are all finished blooming. The inflorescence
> > averaged
> > > >12?
> > > >> > (ID2307)
> > > >> > SOURCE: Dr. Jack Fisher: wild collected Malaysia: Sabah: Gua
> > Gomantung.
> > > >> > Slope, deep forest shade. Inflorescence 35 cm. tall. Malaysia
> > Expedition
> > > >> > 1996 ( Jack Fisher, Allen Howard, Mike McLaughlin) BLOOM
> PERIOD:
> > E
> > > >> > 4/22/98; B 3/30/99; C 4/14/99; 8/99; 4/2000
> > > >> > HORTICULTURE: The Aroidiana Vol. 19 mentions that this is a
> species
> > > >that
> > > >> > does not thrive in cultivation. The article mentions that they
seen
> > to
> > > >> > decline for some unknown reason.
> > > >> > DESCRIPTION: Amorphophallus lambii is one that gets large. The
> > > >> > inflorescence has a distinct smell of urine. I noticed when B
> bloomed
> > in
> > > >> > 3/99, the odor was slight in the day but started getting much
> > stronger
> > > >about
> > > >> > 5 PM.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Craig M. Allen
> > > >> > Conservatory Manager
> > > >> > Fairchild Tropical Garden
> > > >> > 10901 Old Cutler Road
> > > >> > Coral Gables, Florida 33156-4296
> > > >> > Tel. 305-667-1651 ext. 3320
> > > >> > Fax 305-661-8953
> > > >> > e-mail conserv@netrox.net
> > > >> > web: www.ftg.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > > Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
> > > THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
> > > Your Source for Tropical Araceae
> > > Go to
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