Re: Names and Philo Santa Leopoldina

From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2001.07.13 at 03:15:15(7031) Dear guys, In fact there must be at least three forms called Philodendron ?Santa Leopoldina`. The first one is formally known as Philodendron spiritus-sancti G.S.Bunting, that has strap leaves, usually reddish below. There will be an article on the next Aroideana (soon!) concerning the finding of this species in the wild, with pictures, ink drawings and an extended description. The other two are undescribed species, one of them with very robust habit and a sterile appendix at the apex of the spadix. Why there are so many 'forms?? Because Santa Leopoldina is a place in Eastern Brazil from where this species were found. Which is the true Philo `Santa Leopoldina`? None of them! The name is not formally recognized. Even Roberto Burle-Marx (that probably started using this name) used to call all forms `Santa Leopoldina`, as I could see in his collection. Can you see that? Taxonomy is important to avoid you to pay US$300,00 for a seedling of Philodendron atabapoense, that has somewhat elongated leaves that are reddish below (but is a weed in some places of Northern South America) just because someone called it P. `Santa Leopoldina`! Very best wishes, Eduardo. +More >From: Denis >Reply-To: aroid-l@mobot.org >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L >Subject: Re: Names and Philo Santa Leopoldina >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:35:08 -0500 (CDT) > >Brian: > >Dr. Monroe Birdsey could never understand the fuss over this plant and >insisted that he had the same plant as the Santa leopoldina growing on >the trees in his back yard. However, I suspect it was the common form >that you are describing that he had in his trees. > >However, there is a piece of the Philo. Santa Leopoldina from the Betty >Waterbury collection coming up on the online Auction. This is the same >one that Tricia Frank has in her collection. It did not go cheap last >year. So if you want this piece be prepared to spend big bucks. > >Denis at Silver Krome Gardens >Homestead Florida > >brian williams wrote: > > > > OK well I know this plants or should I say plants have been one of the >most > > messed up name problem I have ever seen. Now is their any botanical >names > > for them? I know their are about 3 to 5 plants being sold under Santa > > Leopoldina. But every time I have bought one its all been the same >plant. > > Which is a smaller leaf form that is red underside and a green to light >blue > > leaf. I have seen Tricia franks plant with the beautiful long narrow >leafs. > > Also in California I visited Dicks and Ralph's they had two-forms the >common > > one and the one that is Pictured in the book Tropica. Now has anyone >ever > > cleared up this mess? How in the world did it get so bad did everyone >start > > naming long leafed philos Santa Leopoldina. I don't think burle marx >would > > name 5 plants all the same name I don't think he would? Finally if their >is > > an answer to the names I would love to hear it. Thanks > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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