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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2000.02.22 at 12:52:39(4109)
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From: Michael Marcotrigiano marcotrigiano at pssci.umass.edu> on 2000.02.25 at 12:10:02(4111)
Mine came in a padded envelope but I think they passed it through a metal
roller! Perhaps it is time to go to thin boxes? or stamp them "hand cancel"
(which let's the postal people know there is something worth taking inside
the envelope :-)

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From: hermine hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2000.02.25 at 20:22:05(4114)
At 12:10 PM 2/25/00 , Michael Marcotrigiano wrote:
>Mine came in a padded envelope but I think they passed it through a metal
>roller! Perhaps it is time to go to thin boxes? or stamp them "hand cancel"
>(which let's the postal people know there is something worth taking inside
>the envelope :-)
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From: Don Burns donburns at macconnect.com> on 2000.02.25 at 21:32:18(4115)
Aroiders,

Please, please do not send questions or comments about our current blank
message problem to the Aroid-L mail list address. If you have questions or
comments about the problem, please send them to .
Messages sent to this address will be directed to Steve and me. We
understand your anxiety about solving the problem.

Don

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From: SelbyHort at aol.com on 2000.02.26 at 20:04:49(4117)
Shipping seeds takes some thought, (not much really) but you must have some
awareness of the massive machines that are used for processing mail. When I
shipped out aroid seeds recently, I first wrapped them in dampened newspaper
(ala Tom Croat style...it works!) then put the damp packette inside a small
zip lock bag. The whole thing next went into a small cardboard box, the size
used to pack cassette tapes for mailing. Since you can still possibly crush
the box by standing on it (this is my test for the mails), I decided to
sandwich the small box between pieces of corrugate and rubber band it all
together. It looked pretty ugly at this point, but once inside padded
envelopes, the seeds were pretty secure and protected. Using the small
cassette boxes was a good way to keep the package compressed enough to go
into a small envelope. This even fits inside the small letter rate Global
Express Mail envelope used by the USPS ($5 to anywhere in the world air mail
- guaranteed delivery in 5 working days...this has got to be the best postal
deal anywhere), and avoids any complications such as customs declarations on
larger parcels.

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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.02.27 at 14:39:36(4118)
Thanks for that info. Interesting about the global Express. Are you talking
about global priority? Otherwise express is cheaper than priority and it does
vary with weight.

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From: hermine hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2000.02.27 at 19:08:19(4120)
At 02:39 PM 2/27/00 , Betsytrips@aol.com wrote:
>Thanks for that info. Interesting about the global Express. Are you talking
>about global priority? Otherwise express is cheaper than priority and it does
>vary with weight.
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From: SelbyHort at aol.com on 2000.03.04 at 09:08:48(4139)
Sorry for delay in responding. Yes, I should have said Global Priority, not
global express. Priority is a step above Express in the USPS system for
pricing and expediting mail. The $5 cost is only for the small letter packet
(there is also a specific weight limit for this). If you need a bigger
envelope, the price goes up dramatically. I only cited this service because
it seemed like such a great deal when shipping a small packet of seeds to
places far distant, like Asia, Australia or S. America which normally takes
much longer using standard air mail. Thanks Besty for noticing this.
Donna

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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.03.04 at 09:23:03(4144)
In a message dated 3/4/00 11:09:05 AM Central Standard Time,
SelbyHort@aol.com writes:

<< Priority is a step above Express in the USPS system for

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From: "C. R. Waldron" cwaldron at frognet.net> on 2000.03.04 at 12:21:33(4146)
Priority is what first class used to be at fifty times the price. Most of
you are not old enough to be aware of that so no comments from the peanut
gallery with that remark. If you can't say kind words in reference to age,
then say nothing.

Half kidding,
Betsy

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From: hermine hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2000.03.04 at 19:56:02(4150)
>Priority is what first class used to be at fifty times the price. Most of
>you are not old enough to be aware of that so no comments from the peanut
>gallery with that remark. If you can't say kind words in reference to age,
>then say nothing.

Gee, Half-Kidding Betsy, i have an old catalog, of reference, which I sent
out in mid 70s, which came back to me for a wrong address. cardboard
covers, stapled in the middle, thirteen cent stamp!

These young pups don't remember when a person could actually mail something
and have it arrive at its destination, I'll bet!

SO i use a crushproof box of some sort, even wee cigar tins, inside another
box with Styrofoam peanuts. and i never mark anything FRAGILE because that
is just a challenge to the Postal Employees. Drive by postal shootings are
not just a random accident, you know.

hermine

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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.03.04 at 19:57:40(4151)
In a message dated 3/4/00 2:21:49 PM Central Standard Time,
cwaldron@frognet.net writes:

<< Priority is what first class used to be at fifty times the price. Most of

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From: plantnut at macconnect.com (Dewey) on 2000.03.04 at 19:58:07(4152)
Both of you are kids...... I remember when postage for a first class
letter was *THREE CENTS* and a post card was *A PENNY*. Now, your talking
old!!!!!! Also, service was better then and no one killed their fellow
employes....
Dewey

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From: Don Burns donburns at macconnect.com> on 2000.03.04 at 22:10:14(4155)
>Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:08:37 -0600 (CST)
>Reply-To: hermine@endangeredspecies.com
>Originator: aroid-l@mobot.org
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From: Jmh98law at aol.com on 2000.03.05 at 15:01:17(4157)
In a message dated 3/4/2000 10:58:39 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
plantnut@macconnect.com writes:

<< Both of you are kids...... I remember when postage for a first class

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From: "Joan F. Wall" jfwall at mindspring.com> on 2000.03.05 at 15:02:53(4158)
Service was not only better but we got two deliveries a day!
Joan

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From: JRugh1 at aol.com on 2000.03.05 at 15:03:16(4159)
NOTE: This reply got a bit long. If you have little no interesty in the
discussion of packing and shipping seeds overseas, sorry. You should skip
this message.

JR

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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.03.05 at 15:04:35(4161)
Dewey, I hate to bust your bubble, but I remember those days also. I remember
when the mail came when nothing else could come through the snow and ice.
Funny thing, the cost has gone up and the service has gone down. I guess that
is why we have email and websites so we get our satisfaction that we have it
instantly. Afterall, we are the society of instant gratification, right?
Perhaps it is time to accept it as it is and learn to live with it?

Betsy

From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.03.06 at 19:56:09(4171)
In a message dated 3/5/00 5:01:50 PM Central Standard Time, Jmh98law@aol.com
writes:

<< Gee, Dewey, I must be the same age as you . . . I remember that, too. And

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From: SelbyHort at aol.com on 2000.03.07 at 18:59:52(4173)
"If you don't know where you are going, it doesn't matter which way you go."
- Cheshire Cat, from "Alice in Wonderland", Louis Carroll.

keep smiling Betsy!

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