markers

From: "Cooper, Susan L." SLCooper at scj.com> on 2003.02.07 at 17:24:12(9942) Very eloquent, Rand! Just for my info, what sort of marker do you use? Two years ago I used a Sharpie "permanent marker" which faded to illegible in two months. Last year I used pencil, which was OK but I didn't have much confidence in it on a permanent basis. Susan +More I will dutifully make the appropriate labels and use them freely, as I have a large supply of markers and labels are cheap. And I actually do want to know what I have, am growing, and be able to find good information on them. Names are, indeed, important. Rantless Rand z5b (I wish) Maritime Canada

From: Harry Witmore harrywitmore at witmore.net> on 2003.02.08 at 12:43:52(9946) I only use pencil. Sharpie and other permanant markers fade too fast and grease pencil disappears. I've never had a pencil fade. At 11:24 AM 2/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: +More Very eloquent, Rand! Just for my info, what sort of marker do you use? Two years ago I used a Sharpie "permanent marker" which faded to illegible in two months. Last year I used pencil, which was OK but I didn't have much confidence in it on a permanent basis. Susan I will dutifully make the appropriate labels and use them freely, as I have a large supply of markers and labels are cheap. And I actually do want to know what I have, am growing, and be able to find good information on them. Names are, indeed, important. Rantless Rand z5b (I wish) Maritime Canada Harry Witmore Zone 7 NC Cloud Jungle Art Epiphytes.Org Cloud Jungle ePiphytes

From: Tony Avent tony at plantdel.com> on 2003.02.08 at 18:02:30(9948) Susan: You may wish to try paint pens for your labels. I recommend Deco-Color Paint Pens, extra fine point. You can find them using a web Google Search. Unlike Sharpies and other worthless pens, these will far outlast your labels. +More At 07:43 AM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: > I only use pencil. Sharpie and other permanant markers fade too fast and >grease pencil disappears. I've never had a pencil fade. > > At 11:24 AM 2/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: > Very eloquent, Rand! > Two years ago I used a >"" Last > year I used pencil, which was OK but I didn't have much confidence in it on > a permanent basis. > Susan > > > I will > dutifully make the appropriate labels and use them freely, as I have > And I actually do > want to know what I have, am growing, and be able to find good > information on them. Names are, indeed, important. > > Rantless Rand > z5b (I wish) Maritime Canada > Harry Witmore > Zone 7 NC > Cloud Jungle Art > Epiphytes.Org > Cloud Jungle ePiphytes Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, NC 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdel.com phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent

From: Plantbob at aol.com on 2003.02.08 at 18:11:00(9949) Hi Gang, I use a Sharpie to write on my markers. I then spray the marker with a clear enamel paint which protects it from fading. It lasts for years. Bob Kleiser

From: Regferns at aol.com on 2003.02.09 at 01:03:21(9950) I use pencils to make markers for some plants, but I also I have a wonderful marker which does not fade. (I know, hard to believe.) I've been using them for about 7 years now, and the ink is still as rich as when I originally marked the plastic label. The marker is from Park Seed Company, it is called the Nursery Marking Pen. It can be found on Park Seed's website, www.parkseed.com. +More Reggie Whitehead www.tfeps.org

From: Rand Nicholson writserv at nbnet.nb.ca> on 2003.02.09 at 02:09:15(9951) Hi Susan: I use a Sharpie. This does not sound very helpful, does it? The difference may be that they are fine point permanent cloth markers that can be found anywhere sewing materials or art supplies are sold. This is used on very cheap white plastic labels and I find that the labels usually disintegrate (about four years if a squirrel doesn't make off with them first), or become too brittle to be useful, before the writing fades. Rand +More Very eloquent, Rand! Just for my info, what sort of marker do you use? Two years ago I used a Sharpie "permanent marker" which faded to illegible in two months. Last year I used pencil, which was OK but I didn't have much confidence in it on a permanent basis. Susan

From: Betsy Feuerstein ecuador at midsouth.rr.com> on 2003.02.09 at 19:30:10(9953) Just to add a additional support to this marker. I have used it for years. Only problem is the tip loses its sharp clear ability after a bit and if you forget to put the top on or it becomes disengaged, you are done. I have used these in the field for years. Wet bags or labels, forget it. Dry bags or labels, they work great! Betsy +More Regferns@aol.com wrote: > I use pencils to make markers for some plants, but I also I have a wonderful > marker which does not fade. (I know, hard to believe.) I've been using them > for about 7 years now, and the ink is still as rich as when I originally > marked the plastic label. The marker is from Park Seed Company, it is called > the Nursery Marking Pen. It can be found on Park Seed's website, > www.parkseed.com. > > Reggie Whitehead > www.tfeps.org

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2003.02.09 at 19:47:37(9955) People, I have learned that the brand doesnt' matter as long as it says "No xylene/toluene added". Markers with that qualification have always proven to be extremely good. I have labels that are 13 years old that are still as readable as when they were written. Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu > [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens Rand Nicholson > Verzonden: zondag 9 februari 2003 3:09 > Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Onderwerp: Re: [aroid-l] markers > > > Hi Susan: > > I use a Sharpie. This does not sound very helpful, does it? > > The difference may be that they are fine point permanent cloth > markers that can be found anywhere sewing materials or art supplies > are sold. This is used on very cheap white plastic labels and I find > that the labels usually disintegrate (about four years if a squirrel > doesn't make off with them first), or become too brittle to be > useful, before the writing fades. > > Rand > > > > > >Very eloquent, Rand! > >Just for my info, what sort of marker do you use? Two years > ago I used a > >Sharpie "permanent marker" which faded to illegible in two > months. Last > >year I used pencil, which was OK but I didn't have much > confidence in it on > >a permanent basis. > >Susan

From: Don Martinson llmen at wi.rr.com> on 2003.02.10 at 16:23:08(9962) Over the years I have developed a very permanent low cost labeling system, involving the use of a computer and a b/w laser printer. Ira, This sounds very interesting. Is a laser printer necessary or would an ink-jet printer work just as well? Where do you obtain the "Cleer Adheer"? -- Don Martinson +More Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com

From: Krzysztof Kozminski kk at kozminski.com> on 2003.02.11 at 03:29:13(9965) On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 10:11 AM, Iza & Carol Goroff wrote: Over the years I have developed a very permanent low cost labeling system, involving the use of a computer and a b/w laser printer. I buy polycarbonate +More plastic pieces from a plastic supplier who also does the cutting. These are 7.5" long by 5/8" wide by 1/8" thick, with one end cut diagonally for easy insertion into the ground or potting medium. I also buy 9 X 12" sheets of "Cleer Adheer", made by C-Line Products, Inc., clear Mylar with an adhesive backing. Each sheet is cut to make two 6 X 9" sheets. The plant names and other information (e.g. source and date planted) are printed onto one 1/2 sheet with the laser printer. That is covered with the other 1/2 sheet. The cost is less than $0.50/label. This sounds rather expensive. I just got a box of all-metal (galvanized wire with zinc nameplates) labels from Paw-Paw Everlast Label Co at $0.17/label. I expect them to last forever. They have a website: http://www.everlastlabel.com/ with more details. KK ----- http://www.kozminski.com/ "Divide by cucumber error. Please reinstall the Universe and reboot." - T.Pratchett

From: Iza & Carol Goroff goroff at idcnet.com> on 2003.02.18 at 19:57:02(9999) At one time I bought "Cleer Adheer" at an old time office supply store (Thomas?) on W. Greenfield 6000+. I currently buy it at Jonas Office Supply in Fort Atkinson. The laser printer I use is an old HP 4ML with the manual feed. I have used a number of laser printers in the past. I own an ink jet printer, but I have been sceptical that the process would allow good adhesion to the mylar. The laser printer welds the toner to the mylar (or paper) with heat. Iza Goroff +More Whitewater Wisconsin USA zone 4b Don Martinson wrote: > Ira -> Iza > > This sounds very interesting. Is a laser printer necessary or would > an ink-jet printer work just as well? Where do you obtain the "Cleer > Adheer"?

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