Alocasia reticulata and an introduction

From: chadmayer at yahoo.com (Chad Mayer) on 2008.02.29 at 16:40:08(17106) Hi all. Ive joined a few new groups over the last few weeks and couldnt remember if I introduced myself yet or not, so..... My name is Chad Mayer and I reside in Tempe, AZ. I come to aroids via amphibians (sounds weird, but actually makes some sense). I keep several species of tropical dart frogs, and this has led me to investigate tropical plants in general, and Ive been bitten by the aroid bug pretty bad. I have a temperature controlled greenhouse attached to my house which allows me about 9-10 months a year of solid growth time of many tender tropicals. Currently, Im cultivating several philodendrons and a few anthurium species, but also have a few alocascia. I also 'do' bananas, berries, and a few other standard type plants.... Now to my point. Ive tried a few times to grow this Alocasia, but have rotted them every time. It seems that this variety needs a greater airflow around the roots that is normal on Alocasias Ive grown in the past. But, I usually have some trouble with TC plants, which is how this is produced, so that may in fact be the complicating factor. Ill probably try again later this year when some larger specimens are available, but Ive killed two in the past year thru a rot of some sort. Would love to know of any tips or tricks to keeping this cultivar healthy. Chad +More aroid-l-request at gizmoworks.com wrote: Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to aroid-l at www.gizmoworks.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aroid-l-request at www.gizmoworks.com You can reach the person managing the list at aroid-l-owner at www.gizmoworks.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Alocasia reticulata?? (ExoticRainforest) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:10:31 -0600 From: "ExoticRainforest" Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia reticulata?? To: "Discussion of aroids" Message-ID: <000b01c87a2c$d38a1210$6401a8c0 at AthlonLE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" This specimen was given to me by collector Teri Baber with the tag "Alocasia reticulata". However, even though I've found this plant on the web with that name, I cannot find a species with the name on any of the botanical sources. Would one of you Alocasia experts out there tell me if this is a species or possibly a hybrid? I'm also curious if the name possibly originated in one of Graf's books. If it is a species, what is the correct name. And if the name Alocasia reticulata is a hybrid name can someone direct me to the source? It appears to resemble Alocasia zebrina but I can't be certain. Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080228/ec47fe18/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Alocasia-reticulata-2.gif Type: image/gif Size: 36199 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080228/ec47fe18/attachment.gif ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l End of Aroid-L Digest, Vol 43, Issue 27 *************************************** --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080229/bfc07eb5/attachment-0001.htm

From: donbit121 at hotmail.com (Don Bittel) on 2008.03.02 at 02:25:47(17114) Hello Chad, welcome to the aroid list. I rarely post here, but have grown this plant since it was first obtainable, and have bought all sizes and from many sources. I have none now, since for me it rarely comes back after going dormant. Even in south florida it gets too cold to keep it growing year-round, so keep it very warm, above 65-70 degrees. And most alocasias grow much better in the ground than in pots. It keeps the roots warmer, and allows them to spread their corms. I view alocasias as annuals, and don't expect them to live for years. I am sure you will get better advice than this; we have an incredibly knowledgable group. But I suggest you switch to growing Anthuriums, which are really the kings of the foliage aroids. (Lord P., forgive me.) Don Bittel +More Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:40:08 -0800From: chadmayer at yahoo.comTo: aroid-l at gizmoworks.comSubject: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia reticulata and an introduction Hi all. Ive joined a few new groups over the last few weeks and couldnt remember if I introduced myself yet or not, so..... My name is Chad Mayer and I reside in Tempe, AZ. I come to aroids via amphibians (sounds weird, but actually makes some sense). I keep several species of tropical dart frogs, and this has led me to investigate tropical plants in general, and Ive been bitten by the aroid bug pretty bad. I have a temperature controlled greenhouse attached to my house which allows me about 9-10 months a year of solid growth time of many tender tropicals. Currently, Im cultivating several philodendrons and a few anthurium species, but also have a few alocascia. I also 'do' bananas, berries, and a few other standard type plants.... Now to my point. Ive tried a few times to grow this Alocasia, but have rotted them every time. It seems that this variety needs a greater airflow around the roots that is normal on Alocasias Ive grown in the past. But, I usually have some trouble with TC plants, which is how this is produced, so that may in fact be the complicating factor. Ill probably try again later this year when some larger specimens are available, but Ive killed two in the past year thru a rot of some sort. Would love to know of any tips or tricks to keeping this cultivar healthy. Chadaroid-l-request at gizmoworks.com wrote: Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions toaroid-l at www.gizmoworks.comTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visithttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-lor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' toaroid-l-request at www.gizmoworks.comYou can reach the person managing the list ataroid-l-owner at www.gizmoworks.comWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..."Today's Topics:1. Alocasia reticulata?? (ExoticRainforest)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:10:31 -0600From: "ExoticRainforest" Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia reticulata??To: "Discussion of aroids" Message-ID: <000b01c87a2c$d38a1210$6401a8c0 at AthlonLE>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"This specimen was given to me by collector Teri Baber with the tag "Alocasia reticulata". However, even though I've found this plant on the web with that name, I cannot find a species with the name on any of the botanical sources. Would one of you Alocasia experts out there tell me if this is a species or possibly a hybrid? I'm also curious if the name possibly originated in one of Graf's books. If it is a species, what is the correct name. And if the name Alocasia reticulata is a hybrid name can someone direct me to the source? It appears to resemble Alocasia zebrina but I can't be certain.Thanks!Steve Lucaswww.ExoticRainforest.com-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080228/ec47fe18/attachment.htm -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Alocasia-reticulata-2.gifType: image/gifSize: 36199 bytesDesc: not availableUrl : http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080228/ec47fe18/attachment.gif ------------------------------_______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L at www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmow orks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-lEnd of Aroid-L Digest, Vol 43, Issue 27*************************************** Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080301/1aab7499/attachment.htm

From: gartenbaureisenberger at web.de (Helmut Reisenberger) on 2008.03.02 at 15:46:34(17115) Hello Chad, hello Don As I have once expierienced serious problems with "new" Alocasias ("the little jewels") I am now underway to a certain success, even with most difficult ones. It was through the IAS and through this forum, that I got into contact with LariAnn Garner of Aroidia Research. Their instituition in Florida is, I think, the only one, having picked up the problem of losses of the most beautiful "decor foliage alocasias " in cultivation. They have not found yet the final solution of the root rotting problem, but they provide some recommandable advice to make them survive for at least a few seasons. In permanent contact with aroids expert Peter Boyce they work hard on answers to the questions of shortlived alocasias - most of them recently found by Peter in Malaysian rainforests. Since I have taken up contact with LariAnn and Peter, I successfully grow A. bullata, A. clypoleata, A. cuprea, A. frydek, A. longiloba, A. lowii, A. plumbea, A. rugosum, A. sedenii and a few others as potted specimen in my greenhouses in Vienna, Austria (!). So, if you are interested, what can you do? Just gather first information on "LARIANN GARNER I hope, I could help you. Helmut +More > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Discussion of aroids > Gesendet: 02.03.08 04:28:52 > An: Discussion of aroids > Betreff: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia reticulata and an introduction Hello Chad, > welcome to the aroid list. I rarely post here, but have grown this plant since it was first obtainable, and have bought all sizes and from many sources. I have none now, since for me it rarely comes back after going dormant. Even in south florida it gets too cold to keep it growing year-round, so keep it very warm, above 65-70 degrees. And most alocasias grow much better in the ground than in pots. It keeps the roots warmer, and allows them to spread their corms. I view alocasias as annuals, and don't expect them to live for years. > I am sure you will get better advice than this; we have an incredibly knowledgable group. But I suggest you switch to growing Anthuriums, which are really the kings of the foliage aroids. (Lord P., forgive me.) > > Don Bittel > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:40:08 -0800 > From: chadmayer at yahoo.com > To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia reticulata and an introduction > > > Hi all. Ive joined a few new groups over the last few weeks and couldnt remember if I introduced myself yet or not, so..... > > My name is Chad Mayer and I reside in Tempe, AZ. I come to aroids via amphibians (sounds weird, but actually makes some sense). I keep several species of tropical dart frogs, and this has led me to investigate tropical plants in general, and Ive been bitten by the aroid bug pretty bad. I have a temperature controlled greenhouse attached to my house which allows me about 9-10 months a year of solid growth time of many tender tropicals. Currently, Im cultivating several philodendrons and a few anthurium species, but also have a few alocascia. I also 'do' bananas, berries, and a few other standard type plants.... > > Now to my point. Ive tried a few times to grow this Alocasia, but have rotted them every time. It seems that this variety needs a greater airflow around the roots that is normal on Alocasias Ive grown in the past. But, I usually have some trouble with TC plants, which is how this is produced, so that may in fact be the complicating factor. Ill probably try again later this year when some larger specimens are available, but Ive killed two in the past year thru a rot of some sort. Would love to know of any tips or tricks to keeping this cultivar healthy. > > Chad > > aroid-l-request at gizmoworks.com wrote: > Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to > aroid-l at www.gizmoworks.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aroid-l-request at www.gizmoworks.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aroid-l-owner at www.gizmoworks.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Alocasia reticulata?? (ExoticRainforest) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:10:31 -0600 > From: "ExoticRainforest" > Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia reticulata?? > To: "Discussion of aroids" > Message-ID: <000b01c87a2c$d38a1210$6401a8c0 at AthlonLE> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > This specimen was given to me by collector Teri Baber with the tag "Alocasia reticulata". However, even though I've found this plant on the web with that name, I cannot find a species with the name on any of the botanical sources. Would one of you Alocasia experts out there tell me if this is a species or possibly a hybrid? I'm also curious if the name possibly originated in one of Graf's books. If it is a species, what is the correct name. And if the name Alocasia reticulata is a hybrid name can someone direct me to the source? It appears to resemble Alocasia zebrina but I can't be certain. > > Thanks! > > Steve Lucas > www.ExoticRainforest.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080228/ec47fe18/attachment.htm > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Alocasia-reticulata-2.gif > Type: image/gif > Size: 36199 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080228/ec47fe18/attachment.gif > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > End of Aroid-L Digest, Vol 43, Issue 27 > *************************************** > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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From: gartenbaureisenberger at web.de (Helmut Reisenberger) on 2008.03.02 at 18:57:27(17116) Hallo Franck, hallo all, I am enthusiasticly cultivating a wide range of aroids - mainly tropical foliage plants of alocasia, anthurium, monstera, philodendron and others - in greenhouses in Vienna, Austria. As I privately own a big garden with a couple of huge, old trees, I have some years ago started to transfer some of my most beautiful "indoor aroids" outside from middle of May to the end f September. For that I dig a hole in the ground, fill the bottom of the hole with gravel (for running off excess waters) and place the pots in it. I even do that with climbing species, which than cling on tree trunks, to be cut in autumn (it is always recommendable to cut back climbing aroids...). Then the plants go back to the garden room or in the living area indoors to overwinter. The only requirement is, to have a spot in the garden, where the plants are protected from direct sunlight and strong winds. It is amusing, how the plants appreciate this "open air summer vacation". Most of them develop surprising new growth. As a journalist I also have published that idea and have got a lot of response. Of course it always was my goal to turn my zone 6 garden into a tropical paradise in summer. My aroids allow an almost unlimited creativity in exotic combinations. I do not know, if you, Franck, only want to grow hardy aroids in your garden in permanence, or if you are interested to "stage" a temporary tropical flair. Maybe this is also an idea for other aroiders in zones 8,7,6,5..... I have to try to put some of my pictures, taken in my garden, in this forum, - so far anybody is interested. Helmut Reisenberger +More > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Discussion of aroids > Gesendet: 23.02.08 18:11:34 > An: Discussion of aroids > Betreff: [Aroid-l] Need some advice for aroids in outdoor condition climate zone 7 Hello all, > I would like to put some aroids in outdoor condition in the garden. I > am in a climate zone 7, with hot summer and severe winter (around -10?C > in average to the lower level). What could you advice me as species ? I > have retained some ones but it is just to be sure (Arisaema sp., > Typhonium sp., Symplocarpus sp. are the genus I have for example. I > don't write the species because the list is long). And to finish, how > or where can I found some specimens adapted in culture outdoor ? > Thanks a lot for your help > Franck > -- --------------------------------------------------- > Franck RADNAI - Climate Zone 7 > Web site : http://fradnai.free.fr/ > Photos : http://picasaweb.google.fr/Franck54280 > Long. 6?21' 7" Est > Lat. 48?47'14" Nord > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >

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