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Anthurium hookeri germination
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From: Ferenc.Lengyel at aok.pte.hu (Lengyel Ferenc) on 2008.03.25 at 12:18:24(17215)
Hello,
I have an Anthurium (the common one sold in the plant shops as Anthurium hookeri). It
grew 3 inflorences at a time, so it colud self pollinate itself. Now the cone-shaped berries are
ripening. They push thenselves out of the inflorescense as they ripe one after one, and then
they fall down very easily. The colour is quite pale. What does spread the seeds? In my
opinion they fall down too easily and are too pale to be eaten by birds.
My main question is about seed germination. I can see two small seeds in each berry. I
would like to get some advise on germinating them. Should I pot them as soon as I take
them out of the berry? Should I simply place them in wet moss? Should they be treated with
some kind of acid before? Should I bleach them in clear water for a day? Should I dry them?
Or what to do?
Thanks for any info
Regards!
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Ferenc
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From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.03.26 at 00:02:19(17218)
Ferenc,
It sounds as though you may have the real Anthurium hookeri. Not sure if you read the discussion on this forum some months ago regarding the species but the berries of Anthurium hookeri (the species, not the hybrids) are white, not red as many collectors assume. You can find quite a few websites that indicate the berries should be red but according to information published my Dr. Croat in his journal as well as information furnished by botanist David Scherberich when I was asking about the species, the true species is not what most collectors assume to be Anthurium hookeri. David furnished a photo of the true species which you can see on the link below.
I've managed to grow quite a few Anthurium from seeds sent by other collectors as well as those produced on my own plants. I simply crush the berries and lightly cover them with soil. Some collectors recommend washing the berries but I've had good success by simply planting them. I keep the soil damp until they germinate in moderately bright light. Right now I have at least 10 species growing from seeds as a result.
You can read some of the information I learned about Anthurium hookeri from the experts on this forum here:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Anthurium%20hookeri%20pc.html
Steve Lucas
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www.ExoticRainforest.com
Hello,
I have an Anthurium (the common one sold in the plant shops as Anthurium hookeri). It
grew 3 inflorences at a time, so it colud self pollinate itself. Now the cone-shaped berries are
ripening. They push thenselves out of the inflorescense as they ripe one after one, and then
they fall down very easily. The colour is quite pale. What does spread the seeds? In my
opinion they fall down too easily and are too pale to be eaten by birds.
My main question is about seed germination. I can see two small seeds in each berry. I
would like to get some advise on germinating them. Should I pot them as soon as I take
them out of the berry? Should I simply place them in wet moss? Should they be treated with
some kind of acid before? Should I bleach them in clear water for a day? Should I dry them?
Or what to do?
Thanks for any info
Regards!
Ferenc
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From: michaelgoetz at gmx.net (Michael Goetz) on 2008.03.26 at 07:47:31(17220)
Hi Ferenc,
I germinated some A. bellum and A plowmanii recently. I'd clean the seeds (remove all the pulb & wash them) and immediately place them onto some live sphagnum; I placed sphagnum in a glass jar and placed it at a warm spot. Germination was quite quick and no fungus etc. occurred. Repotting was necessary quite early, as even very small seedlings have long strong roots.
If no live sphagnum is available some fine orchid bark is also possible, but I?d always prefer Sphagnum.
Hope all works well!
Michael
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> 1. Anthurium hookeri germination (Lengyel Ferenc)
> 2. Re: Initiation of Flowering in Amorphophallus (Harry Luther)
> 3. Re: Cryptocoryne Leaves - Books on Cryptocoryne (Famille FERRY)
> 4. Anthurium hookeri germination (ExoticRainforest)
> 5. Re: Initiation of Flowering in Amorphophallus (Scott Vergara)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:18:24 +0100
> From: "Lengyel Ferenc"
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri germination
> To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> Message-ID: <47E8FBA0.29817.D836F3 at Ferenc.Lengyel.aok.pte.hu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hello,
> I have an Anthurium (the common one sold in the plant shops as Anthurium
> hookeri). It
> grew 3 inflorences at a time, so it colud self pollinate itself. Now the
> cone-shaped berries are
> ripening. They push thenselves out of the inflorescense as they ripe one
> after one, and then
> they fall down very easily. The colour is quite pale. What does spread the
> seeds? In my
> opinion they fall down too easily and are too pale to be eaten by birds.
> My main question is about seed germination. I can see two small seeds in
> each berry. I
> would like to get some advise on germinating them. Should I pot them as
> soon as I take
> them out of the berry? Should I simply place them in wet moss? Should they
> be treated with
> some kind of acid before? Should I bleach them in clear water for a day?
> Should I dry them?
> Or what to do?
> Thanks for any info
> Regards!
> Ferenc
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:00:16 -0400
> From: "Harry Luther"
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Initiation of Flowering in Amorphophallus
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
> Message-ID: <1D0D6E6AE2A2924AA760A4CF21CADF8B0E633A at orchid.selby.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Dear Tom; I suggest more light(we grow them under 55% shade under Fl. sun)
> and and cooler and drier in winter, some seasonality which is normal in
> our greenhouses. HEL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com
> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com]On Behalf Of Tom Croat
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:05 PM
> To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Initiation of Flowering in Amorphophallus
>
>
>
> Fellow Aroiders:
>
>
>
> My Director is anxious that we flower Amorphophallus titanum
> which we have had here for many years. It has always been an embarrassment
> that we, among all the institutions in the world practically, have not
> flowered this species even though we have had the species from the earliest
> days. Anyway, I am now asking for advice from those of you who have flowered
> this species if you know of any way it can be induced to flower. I know
> that many of you do not actually want your plants of Amorphophallus to flower
> but if you have any ideas about what would induce these "lazy" plants of
> mine to flower (short of killing it) please let me know.
>
>
>
> Tom Croat
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:39:14 +0100
> From: "Famille FERRY"
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Cryptocoryne Leaves - Books on Cryptocoryne
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
> Message-ID: <006001c88e96$c33ad330$0100a8c0 at ferryff36c7cb3>
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> Hello,
>
> Thank you for all this information.
> Best wishes .
>
> Genevi?ve Ferry ,
> Jardin botanique du Montet
> Nancy , France
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Georg Gschnitzer"
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Cryptocoryne Leaves - Books on Cryptocoryne
>
>
> Hello,
>
> the book from Christel Kasselmann is still available: Go to
> www.ulmer-verlag.de and search (Suche) for Wasserpflanzen or Kasselmann
>
> It is not exactly cheap (? 49,90), but they say it was translated into 6
> languages. So one of them should be English, i think...
>
> The book from Hendrik de Wit is also available there (? 29,90).
>
> There is another book only on Cryptocoryne by Niels Jacobsen from 1979*,
> *(112 pages*,* ISBN 3-87401-035-X, ca.? 12,00,* *Ed:* *Alfred Kernen
> Verlag),
> which ist still recomended by aquarium lovers. You can still find it on
> www.amazon.de as a used book from private sellers.
>
> As my aquaristic carreer ended in the 1990, I do not know these books,
> but books from Eugen Ulmer Verlag are always from very high quality!
>
> Best wishes from Austria
>
> Georg
>
>
> Marek Argent schrieb:
> > Maybe this is the same book, I have only front cover with this name
> > and pages about Cryptocoryne and Anubias.
> >
> > Marek
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Famille FERRY
> > *To:* Discussion of aroids
> > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:42 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Aroid-l] Cryptocoryne Leaves
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a beautiful german book "Aquarienpflanzen" of *H .C. D
> > DE WIT*, publishing ULMER
> > 1990. A hundred pages concerns Crytocorynes .
> > I do not know the book of Christel Kasselmann.
> > Sincerely,
> > Genevi?ve Ferry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* hermine
> > *To:* Discussion of aroids
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 9:17 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Aroid-l] Cryptocoryne Leaves
> >
> > At 11:06 AM 3/21/2008, you wrote:
> >> I know, Ted, I've read it all an a German book
> >> "Aquarienpfanzen" by Christel Kasselmann (Editor - ULMER).
> >> There are about 50 species presented in submerse and emerse.
> >> I don't have the original book, only the b/w xero, but it is
> >> a very valuable book for crypts growers.
> >>
> >> Marek
> >
> > I had aquariums as a child as an excuse to grow underwater
> > plants of which Cryptocorynes were the best. I also remember
> > an impossible plant, the MADAGASCAR LACE LEAF PLANT, never
> > survived when purchased anywhere and the only place that had
> > it was AQUASTOCK in NY, the Axelrod store.....
> >
> > hermine
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:02:19 -0500
> From: "ExoticRainforest"
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri germination
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
> Message-ID: <003f01c88ed4$a9866fb0$6401a8c0 at AthlonLE>
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> Ferenc,
>
> It sounds as though you may have the real Anthurium hookeri. Not sure if
> you read the discussion on this forum some months ago regarding the species
> but the berries of Anthurium hookeri (the species, not the hybrids) are
> white, not red as many collectors assume. You can find quite a few websites
> that indicate the berries should be red but according to information
> published my Dr. Croat in his journal as well as information furnished by
> botanist David Scherberich when I was asking about the species, the true species
> is not what most collectors assume to be Anthurium hookeri. David
> furnished a photo of the true species which you can see on the link below.
>
> I've managed to grow quite a few Anthurium from seeds sent by other
> collectors as well as those produced on my own plants. I simply crush the
> berries and lightly cover them with soil. Some collectors recommend washing the
> berries but I've had good success by simply planting them. I keep the soil
> damp until they germinate in moderately bright light. Right now I have at
> least 10 species growing from seeds as a result.
>
> You can read some of the information I learned about Anthurium hookeri
> from the experts on this forum here:
>
> http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Anthurium%20hookeri%20pc.html
>
> Steve Lucas
> www.ExoticRainforest.com
>
>
> Hello,
> I have an Anthurium (the common one sold in the plant shops as Anthurium
> hookeri). It
> grew 3 inflorences at a time, so it colud self pollinate itself. Now the
> cone-shaped berries are
> ripening. They push thenselves out of the inflorescense as they ripe one
> after one, and then
> they fall down very easily. The colour is quite pale. What does spread
> the seeds? In my
> opinion they fall down too easily and are too pale to be eaten by birds.
> My main question is about seed germination. I can see two small seeds in
> each berry. I
> would like to get some advise on germinating them. Should I pot them as
> soon as I take
> them out of the berry? Should I simply place them in wet moss? Should
> they be treated with
> some kind of acid before? Should I bleach them in clear water for a day?
> Should I dry them?
> Or what to do?
> Thanks for any info
> Regards!
> Ferenc
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:49:18 -0700
> From: "Scott Vergara"
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Initiation of Flowering in Amorphophallus
> To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
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> Recently I had a conversation with someone whose name I can't remember
> right
> now (old age I guess) who has knowledge and experience growing A.
> titanium
> said that the biggest problem is underweight tubers resulting from too
> small
> a container size. The tuber requires room to achieve blooming weight (as
> a
> measurement of blooming size). IT is a big plant and when we keep in pot
> bound it grows well enough each year to look nice but never reaches the
> optimal weight to bloom. It is our reluctance to give it the space it
> needs
> in crowded conservatories. Give it a bigger container and encourage it to
> grow as Bill Weaver suggests. Feed me Seymour
>
>
>
> Scott Vergara
>
>
>
> From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com
> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com]
> On Behalf Of Weaver, Bill
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:39 PM
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Initiation of Flowering in Amorphophallus
>
>
>
> What worked for me was feed, feed and feed. Plus bright light and a well
> drained soil.
>
>
>
> Bill Weaver
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com
> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Croat
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:05 AM
> To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Initiation of Flowering in Amorphophallus
>
> Fellow Aroiders:
>
>
>
> My Director is anxious that we flower Amorphophallus titanum
> which we have had here for many years. It has always been an
> embarrassment
> that we, among all the institutions in the world practically, have not
> flowered this species even though we have had the species from the
> earliest
> days. Anyway, I am now asking for advice from those of you who have
> flowered this species if you know of any way it can be induced to flower.
> I
> know that many of you do not actually want your plants of Amorphophallus
> to
> flower but if you have any ideas about what would induce these "lazy"
> plants
> of mine to flower (short of killing it) please let me know.
>
>
>
> Tom Croat
>
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From: ju-bo at msn.com (ju-bo at msn.com) on 2008.03.26 at 09:57:12(17221)
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> From: Ferenc.Lengyel at aok.pte.hu
> To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:18:24 +0100
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri germination
Dear Ferenc,
It might be that in nature there are ants which could carry the fallen fruit away from the fruiting plant to a suitable site for germinating, or the fruit may fall to the forest floor and be washed away from the main plant by heavy seasonal rains, though it is thought that birds are the main distributer of fruit and seed in this group of Anthuriums.
As suggested by Steve, just place the seed ( most suggest washing off the fruit pulp to avoid fungus) in damp sphagnum moss in a plastic bag, keep it well lit (no direct sun!) and warm, and all seed should germinate.
The Best,
Julius
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<< Hello,
> I have an Anthurium (the common one sold in the plant shops as Anthurium hookeri). It
> grew 3 inflorences at a time, so it colud self pollinate itself. Now the cone-shaped berries are
> ripening. They push thenselves out of the inflorescense as they ripe one after one, and then
> they fall down very easily. The colour is quite pale. What does spread the seeds? In my
> opinion they fall down too easily and are too pale to be eaten by birds.
> My main question is about seed germination. I can see two small seeds in each berry. I
> would like to get some advise on germinating them. Should I pot them as soon as I take
> them out of the berry? Should I simply place them in wet moss? Should they be treated with
> some kind of acid before? Should I bleach them in clear water for a day? Should I dry them?
> Or what to do?
> Thanks for any info
> Regards!
> Ferenc
> _______________________________________________
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> Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com
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From: denis at skg.com (Denis) on 2008.03.26 at 16:55:11(17224)
In our experience growing anthurium seeds in a shadehouse with a lot of
humidity and subtropical climate, we plant untreated fresh anthurium
seed on top of the growing media and it usually germinates without
rotting.(Though sometimes we have trouble with birds or rodents eating
the seed.) Depending on where you are growing them you may want more
humidity so seeds do not dry out. For more ambient humidity around seed
put the container of seeds & medium in clear plastic bag to germinate.
As for germinating medium you can use sphagnum moss or a peat based soil
mix.
Denis
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Silver Krome Gardens
homestead Florida
-----Original Message-----
From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of ExoticRainforest
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:02 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri germination
Ferenc,
It sounds as though you may have the real Anthurium hookeri. Not sure
if you read the discussion on this forum some months ago regarding the
species but the berries of Anthurium hookeri (the species, not the
hybrids) are white, not red as many collectors assume. You can find
quite a few websites that indicate the berries should be red but
according to information published my Dr. Croat in his journal as well
as information furnished by botanist David Scherberich when I was
asking about the species, the true species is not what most collectors
assume to be Anthurium hookeri. David furnished a photo of the true
species which you can see on the link below.
I've managed to grow quite a few Anthurium from seeds sent by other
collectors as well as those produced on my own plants. I simply crush
the berries and lightly cover them with soil. Some collectors recommend
washing the berries but I've had good success by simply planting them.
I keep the soil damp until they germinate in moderately bright light.
Right now I have at least 10 species growing from seeds as a result.
You can read some of the information I learned about Anthurium hookeri
from the experts on this forum here:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Anthurium%20hookeri%20pc.html
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
Hello,
I have an Anthurium (the common one sold in the plant shops as Anthurium
hookeri). It
grew 3 inflorences at a time, so it colud self pollinate itself. Now the
cone-shaped berries are
ripening. They push thenselves out of the inflorescense as they ripe one
after one, and then
they fall down very easily. The colour is quite pale. What does spread
the seeds? In my
opinion they fall down too easily and are too pale to be eaten by birds.
My main question is about seed germination. I can see two small seeds in
each berry. I
would like to get some advise on germinating them. Should I pot them as
soon as I take
them out of the berry? Should I simply place them in wet moss? Should
they be treated with
some kind of acid before? Should I bleach them in clear water for a day?
Should I dry them?
Or what to do?
Thanks for any info
Regards!
Ferenc
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From: Ferenc.Lengyel at aok.pte.hu (Lengyel Ferenc) on 2008.03.26 at 17:08:27(17226)
Thank you for all the answers, I found them all to be very useful.
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From: dburch23 at bellsouth.net (derek burch) on 2008.03.26 at 22:31:07(17233)
Ferenc
Do you keep your Aroideana around? We had quite a lot in the last issue (Vol
30) on this topic .
You are breaking this old editor's heart!
Derek
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Hello,
I have an Anthurium (the common one sold in the plant shops as Anthurium
hookeri). It
grew 3 inflorences at a time, so it colud self pollinate itself. Now the
cone-shaped berries are
ripening. They push thenselves out of the inflorescense as they ripe one
after one, and then
they fall down very easily. The colour is quite pale. What does spread the
seeds? In my
opinion they fall down too easily and are too pale to be eaten by birds.
My main question is about seed germination. I can see two small seeds in
each berry. I
would like to get some advise on germinating them. Should I pot them as soon
as I take
them out of the berry? Should I simply place them in wet moss? Should they
be treated with
some kind of acid before? Should I bleach them in clear water for a day?
Should I dry them?
Or what to do?
Thanks for any info
Regards!
Ferenc
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