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  AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden
From: "FTG Conservatory, Craig Allen" conserv at netrox.net> on 2000.04.24 at 16:24:31(4409)
AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden

The growing season has started along the bay in Miami. I?ve been out of town
for several weeks and during that time the amorphophallus collection began
to break dormancy. I made a list of the species that are blooming, are about
to bloom, and or just finished.

FG 941491 Amorphophallus gigas "inflorescence now 76" tall, spadix
showing but not mature" (ID84)
SOURCE: Don Evans: when the Wilbert Hetterscheid & Dr James Symon expedition
brought back seeds of the A, titanium, these seeds were included. 9/13/93
BLOOM PERIOD: 5/99; 6/99; 4/24/2000
HORTICULTURE: All reports given to me say it is hard to keep alive.
* It will be at tonight's IAS meeting (4/24/2000)
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Amorphophallus haematospadix (syn.: A. siamensis) FG 961039 -
inflorescence now 13", spadix just beginning to show (ID2149)
SOURCE: Mike McLaughlin, Allen Howard, Jack Fisher: Malaysia: State of
Perlis: Gua Kelam Recreation Area: Mata Ayer Forest Preserve. 3 May 1996.
BLOOM PERIOD: 4/99; 4/2000
DESCRIPTION: striking slender inflorescence, slender leathery leaves are
unmistakable. In 1999 the first inflorescence was produced. It lasted longer
than most species, more than a week. Over all it is 30" tall, taller than
any Mike saw in the rainforest. The stem is 18" the actual inflorescence
12". The spadix is 1.25" thick, 10" long smooth and colored a deep
burgundy/purple. The spathe is white aging to lavender, darker towards the
base. The bloom stalk like the leaf has no mottling. It has a fragrance much
like rotting fruit, not of carrion as is common on many other species.
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FG 961019 Amorphophallus sp. "inflorescence still wrapped in sheath"
(ID2313)
SOURCE: Dr. L. G. Saw; Collected Malaysia: state of Perlis: Guar Jentik:
Kaki Bukit. Malaysia Expedition 1996 (Jack Fisher, Allen Howard, Mike
McLaughlin) 5/4/96.
BLOOM PERIOD: 4/21/98; 5/13/98; 4/24/2000;
DESCRIPTION: When it bloomed in 4/98, it looked very much like (ID2314)
Looks similar to the A. prainii listed in Aroidiana Vol. 19, p. 112.
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FG 961022 Amorphophallus sp. ?11inch inflorescence still tightly wrapped
in sheath? (ID2314)
SOURCE: Dr. L.G. Saw Malaysia: State of Perlis: Gua Kelam Recreational
Area: Mata Ayer Forest Preserve. Malayasia Expedition 1006 (Jack Fisher,
Allen Howard, Mike McLaughlin) 16. 5/3/96.
BLOOM PERIOD: 4/18/98; 4/24/2000
DESCRIPTION: (Looks similar to the A, prainii listed in Aroidiana Vol. 19,
p. 112.) Looks much like (ID2313) 961019 but with out the recurved spathe
edge. The tuber is a very symmetrical pumpkin shape. The depression at the
top is very deep.
??????????????.

FG 80198 Sauromatum guttatum "several bloomed while I was away another
looks ready in 3-5 days" (ID1961)
COMMON NAME: Voodoo Lily, Monarch of the East
SOURCE: Dr. Jim French, from horticulture BLOOM PERIOD: 5/98; 6/98;
3/2000
DESCRIPTION: Inflorescence last only 1 or 2 days, smells like urine
???????????????.

(ID2741) Amorphophallus sp. ?in full bloom, inflorescence about 10-12?
SOURCE: Donated by Dewey Fisk: SLY 515 collected by Si-Lin Yang. Catba
Islands, Vietnam, collected on Oct. 20, 1994
BLOOM PERIOD: 4/24/2000
DESCRIPTION: Inflorescence is a small A. peonifolius
????????????????

FG 961266 Amorphophallus sp. ?just about finished blooming. Inflorescence
is 32? tall? (ID2312)
SOURCE: Dr. Si-Lin Yang wild collected in Thailand, Chaing Mai.
DESCRIPTION: Looks like A. yunnanensis, Aroidiana Vol. 19, 1996 pp. 127-8
????????????????.

FG 97630 Amorphophallus variabilis ?inflorescence is 19? tall,
spadix beginning to show? (ID2352)
SOURCE: Reggie Whitehead and Tom Moore collected in Java' Cibadak, 6/97
BLOOM PERIOD: 5/19/98; 4/24/2000
DESCRIPTION: not a large species
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FG 961201 Amorphophallus lambii Araceae ? several plants have bloomed
this spring, they are all finished blooming. The inflorescence averaged 12?
(ID2307)
SOURCE: Dr. Jack Fisher: wild collected Malaysia: Sabah: Gua Gomantung.
Slope, deep forest shade. Inflorescence 35 cm. tall. Malaysia Expedition
1996 ( Jack Fisher, Allen Howard, Mike McLaughlin) BLOOM PERIOD: E
4/22/98; B 3/30/99; C 4/14/99; 8/99; 4/2000
HORTICULTURE: The Aroidiana Vol. 19 mentions that this is a species that
does not thrive in cultivation. The article mentions that they seen to
decline for some unknown reason.
DESCRIPTION: Amorphophallus lambii is one that gets large. The
inflorescence has a distinct smell of urine. I noticed when B bloomed in
3/99, the odor was slight in the day but started getting much stronger about
5 PM.

Craig M. Allen

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From: "Bonaventure W Magrys" magrysbo at shu.edu> on 2000.04.25 at 16:35:26(4420)
Dear Craig,
Anthurium, Spathiphyllum, Caladium, and Calla, are among aroid genera which
have
horticulturally benefited greatly from a program of hybridization and breeding.
Now that you have several species of Amorphophallus and relatives blooming or
ready to, together, howbout saving pollen from one and putting it on others
when
receptive, to produce hybrids?
The benefits, at least, may turn out to be hybrid vigor and decreased
maturation
time. Many unexpected surprises turn up also.
There would probably be a ready market for such seed or seedlings as many of us
would be eager to grow up some of these..........

Bonaventure W. Magrys

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From: Scott Hyndman hyndman at aroid.org> on 2000.04.25 at 20:05:17(4422)
Your idea is an interesting one, but keep in mind that without the very
careful documentation of proposed Amorphophallus hybrids, the taxonomy could
become very confused, just as it is already in the many hybrids that exist
of Anthurium, Caladium, and Spathiphyllum.

Regards, Scott

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2000.04.26 at 14:55:41(4430)
The first person to distribute hybridised Amorphophalluses will have to
watch his/her back for the rest of his/her life..................or must
learn all twohundred REAL species by heart!!!!!

Wilbert

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From: "Bonaventure W Magrys" magrysbo at shu.edu> on 2000.04.26 at 15:12:15(4433)
The Royal Horticultural Society maintains an orchid hybrid registery, with
stringent rules. My own Arisaema hybrids have been strictly documented, closely
watched, and always immediately and permanently kept labeled. A cross, say
of A.
haematospadix with A. gigas will always have the same name for the grex,
whether
it is remade in the future by someone else or with different clones (but
backcrosses of the hybrid to one of the parents must be named differently) or
whichever species is the seed bearing parent. The convention is A.(species A x
species B) on the label (that is A, the seed parent, by B, the pollen
donor). So
for example you may, if you choose to do so, in some centralized registry for
aroid hybrids, register Amorphophallus Bloody Giant [A.(gigas x
haematospadix)].
In this case pollen was donated by the haematospadix. My clone of course would
be A. Bloody Giant 'The Best' (note single quotation marks). The offspring will
be all individual clones with variability and any vegetative propagation of an
y will still carry the clonal name. Offspring of a self pollination would be
labeled as A. Bloody Giant ('The Best' x self) and can each be given individual
clonal names. Offspring of a sibling cross, eg. 'The Best' x 'FTG's
Super-vigorous' would still be considered of the same grex, that is
Amorphophallus Bloody Giant.

PS. Anyone out there have ideas for a name for Arisaema triphyllum (albescent
form used, not that it matters for naming) by nepenthoides (one seedling
growing); A.(triphyllum x taiwanensis); and Ellen, if they germinated,
A.(candidissimum x sikokianum)?

Bonaventure Magrys

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From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.04.26 at 15:50:02(4435)
----- Original Message -----
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden

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From: plantnut at macconnect.com (plantnut) on 2000.04.26 at 17:34:31(4438)
I agree with the below message!!!!!!!!!!
Dewey

>The first person to distribute hybridised Amorphophalluses will have to

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From: plantnut at macconnect.com (plantnut) on 2000.04.26 at 17:35:34(4439)
Shame on you Neil, I thought you were a "Species Person"
Dewey

>If documented, what is the problem with trying to hybridize Amorphophallus?

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From: "Scott Lucas" htbg at ilhawaii.net> on 2000.04.26 at 18:04:45(4441)
But then, on the other hand, hybridization studies would lead to an
understanding of interspecific relationships and evolution within the genus.
I mean, don't you people believe in sex?

> I agree with the below message!!!!!!!!!!
> Dewey

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From: plantnut at macconnect.com (plantnut) on 2000.04.26 at 20:40:44(4442)
I've said enough.... I'm bowing out of this one....
Dewey

>But then, on the other hand, hybridization studies would lead to an

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From: "Bjoern Malkmus" bjoern.malkmus at verwaltung.uni-mainz.de> on 2000.04.27 at 15:20:07(4447)
What about hybridizing Arisaema ???

- just to make confusion perfect.

I know, just a bad joke ...

Bj?rn Malkmus

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From: "Bjoern Malkmus" bjoern.malkmus at verwaltung.uni-mainz.de> on 2000.04.27 at 15:21:51(4448)
Neil,

you are talking about an ideal world where never ever plant labels get
lost or mixed up. If you are going to hybridize Amorphophallus in
your own cultivation, this is perfectly ok and might result in some
beautiful new clones.

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From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.04.27 at 15:25:19(4450)
----- Original Message -----
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2000.04.27 at 15:28:47(4452)
Did I sound serious enough to evoke this reaction??? Sorry folks, not
intended.

Wilbert

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2000.04.27 at 15:30:32(4453)
Hear, hear!!!!! Thanks.

Wilbert

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2000.04.27 at 15:32:51(4454)
Well, I think sex is o.k. (don't forward this to other people.....).
However, hybridisation as a tool in unravelling evolutionary relationships
is a passed station. The biological species concept in Mayr's sense is long
dead.

Wilbert

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From: StroWi at t-online.de (StroWi) on 2000.04.27 at 15:34:16(4455)
Neil Carroll schrieb:

> (BTW the plural of Amorphophallus is Amorphophallus)
>
> Neil

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From: "Scott Lucas" htbg at ilhawaii.net> on 2000.04.27 at 16:40:17(4458)
Must be showing my age! (don't forward that to anyone either) :-)

----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L"
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: AMORPHOPHALLUS @ Fairchild Tropical Garden

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From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.04.28 at 17:38:36(4462)
> Neil Carroll schrieb:
>
> > (BTW the plural of Amorphophallus is Amorphophallus)
> >
> > Neil
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From: SelbyHort at aol.com on 2000.05.02 at 14:58:38(4515)
Just a note about Bonaventure's example with the A. Bloody Giant 'The Best'.
To register a cultivar, you will need to select a clone from the cross and
apply a cultivar name. Unfortunately you can't use names like 'The Best', or
'Biggest and Greatest' or anything like that when officially registering your
cutivars....sorry.

Please check with me if you have questions about naming your cultivars and
getting them registered.

Donna Atwood
Selby Gardens

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From: "Bonaventure W Magrys" magrysbo at shu.edu> on 2000.05.03 at 16:57:50(4531)
Donna,
Just joking about the cultivar names. But doesn't one have to make the grex
name
official. This is what is done in orchid registery and cultivar (or clonal)
names are then "fixed" at judging when an official award is given to it (or
not)
at a judging center or show.
Bonaventure

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2000.05.08 at 18:31:16(4547)
> Donna,
> Just joking about the cultivar names. But doesn't one have to make the
grex
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